Cecilia Danell: Pehea ʻoe e hoʻomaka ai i kahi kiʻi pena? Hana ʻoe i nā kiʻi hoʻomākaukau? Loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi manaʻo ma mua a i ʻole hiki ke hana ʻia ma ka canvas, me he mea lā?
Diana Copperwhite: Hana wau i kahi hui o nā mea. Ke ʻimi mau nei au i ka ʻike a ke hoʻohana nei au i nā mea i mālama ʻia ma koʻu poʻo; Lawe pū wau i nā kiʻi a hoʻohana i nā kiʻi i loaʻa. I kekahi manawa hoʻomaka wau i kahi kaha kiʻi e like me ke ʻano o ka palapala ʻāina no ke kiʻi pena, e ulu ana ma kona ʻaoʻao ponoʻī. ʻAʻole au makemake e maʻalahi lākou, no laila ʻo ka hui ʻana o ka huki ʻana i nā mea mai nā wahi like ʻole. Noʻu, he mea nui ia e lilo i mea kaʻawale loa ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻimi ma kekahi ʻaoʻao.
CD: Ua ʻike au ua ʻoi aku ka nui o kāu hana mua.
DC: ʻAe, manaʻo wau ua hoʻomaka ma ia ala no ka mea makemake nui wau i ka honua, a me ka pili ʻana o kekahi i kekahi. ʻAʻole ia he hoʻoholo noʻonoʻo akā ua hana ʻia ma ke ʻano kino – ʻano like me ka unuhi ʻana i ke mele me ka ʻike maka a i ʻole ka pili ʻana i ka hoʻomanaʻo a me nā manaʻo o ka ʻike. Ua morphed mai laila i kekahi mea abstract.
CD: I loko o kāu mau kiʻi pena i kēia mau lā, hiki iaʻu ke ʻike i nā hakahaka a me nā kiʻi - ua noʻonoʻo lākou a i ʻole koʻu manaʻo e hoʻāʻo e wehewehe i ke ʻano?
DC: ʻAʻole hiki ke hana i ka pena me ka hana ʻole i kēlā mau pilina. Inā ʻoe e nānā ana i kekahi mea ma ke kukui haʻahaʻa, a i ʻole ma ke ala ʻeleʻele, ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike pono iā ia a ʻōhumu kou noʻonoʻo e hoʻāʻo e hāʻawi i ka manaʻo no ka mea ua uea mākou e like me ia. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke kau i kahi hōʻailona ma ka ʻaoʻao o kahi māka ʻē aʻe i loko o kahi kiʻi pena me ka heluhelu ʻole ʻia e like me ka noʻonoʻo ʻana.
CD: Aia kahi ʻike maoli, kahi kumuhana, i ke ʻano o kā mākou ʻike ʻana i nā mea o ka honua. ʻO kekahi o nā mea aʻu i makemake ai e pili ana i kāu hana a ua hoʻokomo au i kaʻu hana ponoʻī i nā makahiki he nui, ʻo ia ka manaʻo o ka pilina waihoʻoluʻu - nā kala ʻaʻole maoli i laila, e hana ana i kahi ʻano ʻike ʻike.
DC: No ka nānā 'ana i ka honua. Ke nānā mau nei au i ka mālamalama, a me nā kumu kukui a me ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana a me ke ʻano o ke kukui keʻokeʻo i hana ʻia mai ka spectrum. Ma lalo o kekahi mau kūlana, e like me ka ʻaila a i ʻole ka ua, e hoʻohuli i ka mālamalama, a hoʻomaka ʻoe e ʻike i ke kala. ʻOi aku ka mea maoli ma mua o ke kukui keʻokeʻo, ma ke ʻano. Hiki ke ʻokoʻa i ka ʻike a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, a ʻo ka pena ka mea ʻē aʻe ʻaʻole pono ke kūlike.
CD: Loaʻa iaʻu kahi manawa e hoʻohana ai i nā kala mai kekahi ʻaoʻao o ka spectrum kala, a me nā kiʻi ʻaʻole i laila ma o nā kulu a me nā abstractions.
DC: Hoʻokomo ʻoe i kēlā mau manaʻo ma ke ʻano kiʻi a laila uhaʻi ʻoe i ka pilina kiʻi-plane. Hiki paha iā ʻoe ke hoʻohana i nā pulu ʻulaʻula a me ka ʻulaʻula i loko o kēia ʻāina hoʻokalakupua a aneane like ia me kahi puka puka i kahi ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻē aʻe. ʻO ia kaʻu mea hoihoi pū kekahi – lawe i kēia mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka ʻike ʻana o kekahi i nā mea a wehe i kēia wahi nui no ka noʻonoʻo.
CD: I kekahi manawa hana au i hope, kahi e mālama ai au i nā kiʻi ma mua o ka uhi ʻana. ʻO ka lōʻihi o kāu hana ʻana, ʻike ʻoe ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke mālama i ke kāʻei kua e like me ia, no ka mea, ʻaʻole i hoʻopau ʻia, a pono ʻoe e hana ma luna.
DC: A laila ʻike ʻoe ʻaʻole ia he ʻano, he pena. ʻO ia ka ʻāpana leʻaleʻa o ka pena pena - nona iho; he pena.
CD: Ua ʻōlelo ʻo John Berger, ʻaʻole paʻa ka pena kiʻi, ʻaʻole like me ke kiʻi, akā aia nā manawa a pau e pena ai a me nā manawa e hiki mai ana ke nānā ʻia - no laila ʻaʻohe manawa, ma ia ʻano. Ma kāu hana, hiki iā mākou ke ʻike maopopo i kēlā kaʻina hana; hiki iā mākou ke ʻimi i nā ʻaoʻao o ka pena a ʻike i nā papa.
DC: Manaʻo wau i ka wā e pena ana au, ke ʻimi nei au i kekahi mea, akā ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu he aha ia. Ke hoʻomau nei au a ʻo ia ke kumu i nui ai nā ʻoki a me nā loli, nā papa, hoʻomaka a hoʻomaha; Makemake au e gravity-free, e like me kekahi mea maoli.
CD: Ua nīnau pinepine au "i ka manawa hea ʻoe e ʻike ai ua pau kahi kiʻi pena?" E ʻōlelo wau ʻo ia ka wā e nānā pono ʻole ai kekahi mea; ke hele ka maka a paa ole. I kekahi manawa hiki i ka kala hoʻokahi ke haʻihaʻi loa a ʻoi aku ka manaʻo.
DC: Pono, no ka mea, pono e hana ka pena holo'oko'a! ʻIke au i ka wā e pena ana au - a loaʻa paha iā ʻoe kēia - i ka wā mua inā maikaʻi loa ia, ʻaʻole ia he mea maikaʻi no ka mea ua pili ʻoe i kekahi mea a pono ʻoe e aʻo e hoʻokuʻu.
CD: He mea paʻakikī loa ka hana ʻana i kēlā ʻanuʻu, no ka mea hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻopau loa. ʻIke ʻoe inā ʻaʻole ʻoe, he pena maikaʻi ia akā inā hoʻokō ʻoe e hana a hana ia, lawe ʻoe iā ia i kahi pae aʻe.
DC: ʻO ka mea maʻamau inā ʻaʻole ia he pena maikaʻi i ka hoʻomaka ʻana, pono ʻoe e hana ikaika e hoʻomaikaʻi. ʻAʻole ʻoe e komo i kāu ʻaina ahiahi a noʻonoʻo ʻoe “maikaʻi kēlā, hana kēlā”. ʻAʻole - he haunaele.
CD: Ma ke ʻano o ka pālākiō, ke hana ʻoe i nā hana liʻiliʻi, kapa ʻoe iā lākou 'anti-portraits' a kokoke loa lākou a abstract i ka manawa like. Ke hana nei au i nā hana liʻiliʻi, hana wau i nā ʻano pili pili o ke ʻano. He ala ʻokoʻa kēia o ka hoʻokokoke ʻana a ʻaʻole loa wau e hana pilikino i kahi ʻāina ma kahi ʻano liʻiliʻi.
DC: ʻAe, he mea ʻokoʻa ia, nā kiʻi pena liʻiliʻi… Ua like ia me ka hoʻokuʻu ʻana mai nā kiʻi pena nui no ka mea he nui nā mea e hana nei i loko o ia mau mea - he hana kaulike ia. ʻO nā kiʻi pena liʻiliʻi he nani a pōkole; Ua like ia me ka hana ʻana i ka huaʻōlelo e hele mau ana, e like me ke kaha me nā koma a me nā kiko piha a me nā huaʻōlelo.
CD: Hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻololi i nā mea i loko o nā kiʻi pena nui. Ke hana wau i ka pulu ma ka pulu, hiki iaʻu ke nānā aku i kekahi wahi a hoʻomau me ka ʻole e hoʻomaloʻo i nā mea, no ka mea hiki iaʻu ke neʻe i kahi mea ʻē aʻe. Ke inaina nei au i kou wā i loko o ke keena a loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi mea āu e hana nei ma hope o kēlā lā, a komo maoli ʻoe i loko, a ua hui ʻoe i nā pena a pau…
DC: He mea paʻakikī kēlā, no ka mea, pono ʻoe e hoʻōki… hoʻopaʻa manawa wau iaʻu iho. Pono wau e hele i laila, a ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea e hiki mai ana. Pono wau e makaʻala loa, akā ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻomau i kēlā pae o ka makaʻala a me ka nānā ʻana no kēlā lōʻihi. Hoʻonoho wau i kaʻu alarm no ka hapalua hola, no laila, ʻaʻohe oʻu mea hoʻopilikia. A laila haʻalele wau no ʻumi mau minuke a hoʻi mai a hana like.
CD: He paʻakikī loa ka hana i ke kakahiaka; E hele wale ana au ma kahi o 2pm. I kekahi manawa, manaʻo ʻoe he paʻakikī kēia, akā i ka wā e hoʻopau ai ʻoe, makemake ʻoe e hoʻoponopono i kahi mea liʻiliʻi a lele ka manawa. Kiʻi au i kaʻu hana i koʻu hele ʻana. Eia naʻe, nānā pinepine au i kaʻu hana ma kahi moe, a laila inā ʻaʻole pono kekahi mea, hiki ʻole iaʻu ke hiamoe! Aia ma kou noonoo mau.
DC: Hana like wau! Inā ʻoe e nānā i nā kiʻi ma nā kelepona a i ʻole nā mea hana, hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻoholo i ka hewa o lākou. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i kahi hiʻohiʻona, me he mea lā aia ʻoe i loko o kahi hale kiʻi e kū ana i hope, ma kahi o ka nānā ʻana i kahi wahi. Ua like nā kiʻi kiʻi me nā kānaka, e hahai ana iā mākou a puni! ʻO ia no ka mea, ua hoʻopili wale lākou i ke ola.
ʻO Cecilia Danell kahi mea pena kiʻi Kuekene i hoʻokumu ʻia ma Galway. Ke hoʻomau nei kāna hōʻikeʻike solo o kēia manawa, ʻo 'Tactile Terrain' ma ka Luan Gallery a hiki i ka lā 3 ʻApelila. Ke hōʻike nei ʻo ia ma ka Hennessy Craig Award Exhibition ma RHA a hiki i ka lā 21 Malaki.
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He mea pena kiʻi ʻo Diana Copperwhite ma Dublin. He lālā ʻo ia no Aosdána a i kēia manawa e hōʻike ana ma ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike ʻo Snite, USA, ma ke ʻano he ʻāpana o 'Who Do We Say We Are', kahi hōʻikeʻike o nā kiʻi kiʻi Irish, me kahi hōʻike hoʻokahi e hiki mai ana ma 532 Gallery Thomas Jaeckel, New York, i Kepakemapa.
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Hōʻike ʻia nā mea pena ʻelua e Kevin Kavanagh, ʻO Dublin.
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