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Noʻonoʻo ʻo Selma Makela lāua ʻo Fionna Murray i ka manaʻo e hiki ke kiʻi i wahi nona iho.

ʻO Selma Makela, Kiaʻi kahakai, 2021, ʻaila ma ka canvas, 28cm x 34cm; na ka mea pena kii. ʻO Selma Makela, Kiaʻi kahakai, 2021, ʻaila ma ka canvas, 28cm x 34cm; na ka mea pena kii.

Selma Makela: Ma ka nui o kāu mau pena pena, me he mea lā aia ʻoe i loko a i waho. Hoʻopuka hou ʻoe i nā kumu, aʻu e manaʻo nei e hana nā mea pena a pau ma ke ʻano he ʻōlelo ʻike, akā hoʻolohe pū ʻoe i nā mea i ʻike ʻole ʻia a nānā ʻole ʻia. Maʻa loa nā kiʻi o nā paka mai iaʻu, e like me ʻoe, ua hoʻohana wau i koʻu wā kamaliʻi ma ia mau paka - ʻo koʻu ʻano ʻano ʻano wale nō ma Lākana. ʻIke wau i kēia manawa ua kūkulu ʻia nā wahi e like me Hampstead Heath. ʻO kāu mau pena kiʻi pāka e hoʻopiha iaʻu i ka hoʻomanaʻo ʻana i kēia mea ʻino, akā, ʻo ka manaʻo e hiki ke kiʻi i kahi wahi nona iho.

Fionna Murray: ʻAe, ua ikaika loa ka manaʻo o ke kiʻi kiʻi i ka wā e hana ana au i nā pena wai - ʻo ka manaʻo o ka wahi āu e hana ai he ʻano like ʻole. Hoʻokumu ʻia ke kiʻi pena e ko ke ao nei, akā he ola kona. ʻO ke ʻano o ka pena ma ke ʻano he mea ʻokoʻa ka pale ʻana i nā mea maopopo a ʻo ia ka mea i manaʻo ʻole ʻia ke kaʻina hana a he aha kou makemake e hoʻomaka i kahi kiʻi pena. Malia paha he mana koʻikoʻi ko nā wahi a mākou i ʻike mua ai i kā mākou mau huaʻōlelo ʻike. E like me ʻoe, ua hoʻokumu nā paka ʻo Lākana i koʻu manaʻo no kahi kuaʻāina, ʻoiai he mea i kūkulu ʻia. 

He ʻōlelo koʻu i loko o kaʻu puke puke na Albert Camus, nāna i ʻōlelo ʻo ke ola o ke kanaka "he huakaʻi lōʻihi wale nō e ʻike hou ai… nā kiʻi ikaika ʻelua a ʻekolu paha i wehe ʻia ai kona kino holoʻokoʻa no ka manawa mua." Pēlā nō ia i kekahi manawa, ke nīnau au iaʻu iho no ke aha wau e pena nei. Pono anei e hoʻomaopopo i kēlā mau hoʻomanaʻo ʻike ikaika mai kēlā mau wahi hoʻokumu? A manaʻo wau he ʻoi aku ka ikaika i kou neʻe ʻana i kahi ʻāina ʻē aʻe mai kou ulu ʻana? ʻO ka hoʻoneʻe ʻana e makemake ʻoe e hōʻiliʻili i kēlā mau ʻāpana o kēlā wahi ʻē aʻe i loko o ka hakahaka o ka pena. A pono ʻoe e hana hou a hana hou no ka mea e ʻalo ka idyll iā mākou. 

Hoʻopili paha kēia iā ʻoe ma ke ʻano o kāu mau kiʻi pena? He nui ka unahi i loko o kāu mau hana liʻiliʻi a ʻike pinepine ʻia kou mau wahi ma ka lihi o kekahi wahi. ʻO nā mea kiʻi kiʻi, inā he kanaka, hale kiʻi a holoholona paha, he wahi liʻiliʻi akā pono ia o ka lewa o ka pena. Palpable ka lewa e like me ka olelo, Polokalamu, 2018. Me ka hoʻokele waiwai o nā mea e like me ka hopu ʻana i ka ʻike o ka loaʻa ʻana i ka hau hau, ma ke kino a ma ke ʻano hoʻohālikelike paha, ma waho o ka hau.

SM: He mea nui ka wahi i kou neʻe ʻana aku, a ʻoi aku hoʻi i ka neʻe ʻana o nā mākua. Hiki iaʻu ke pili i kēia pilina me kahi, a me ka manaʻo o ka pena ma ke ʻano he wahi, no ke kūkākūkā ʻana i ʻehā mau moʻomeheu ʻokoʻa ʻoiai ʻaʻole i ʻāpana piha o kekahi. ʻO nā kiʻi formative noʻu he mau huakaʻi kamaliʻi e kipa i ka ʻohana ma Finland a ma mua o ka Arctic Circle. ʻAʻole i haʻalele iaʻu kēia ʻike no ka pō a me ka ākea ākea a hoʻomaopopo maoli i kaʻu ʻōlelo ʻike. Hoʻopili pū ʻia kēia mau kiʻi me nā huakaʻi kaʻa ma ʻEulopa e ʻike i ka ʻohana ma Cyprus. 

Ua nānā pinepine au i ke aniau a me nā kaʻina hana honua ma ke ʻano he ʻōlelo e hoʻopau ai i ka hoʻoponopono ʻana i nā lāhui a me nā palena, a lilo ia i mea ʻole i ka wā e kū ana i kahi pilikia ea - a ʻaʻa wau e ʻōlelo, nā virus! Akā ʻoiai he wahi ʻokoʻa nā kiʻi pena, ʻike mau wau i ka pilina o nā kiʻi i kekahi. ʻO nā puaʻa e like me nā capsules o ka manawa, i hana pinepine ʻia mai nā mineral honua kahiko. No laila, ke hana au i nā kiʻi pena, ʻike wau iā lākou ma ke ʻano he hoʻonohonoho nuanced o nā hiʻohiʻona he nui, oblique a entangled, ma mua o nā hana paʻa. Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ke kumu ʻaʻole wau e hoʻolālā i ka hana; Manaʻo wau iā lākou he mau ʻāpana o ka manawa a me nā kiʻi. 

FM: Ke kani nei kēia mau manaʻo i kaʻu iho, ma ke ʻano o koʻu ʻike ʻana i kaʻu mau kiʻi pena - ma ke ʻano he mau ʻāpana i loko o ke ʻano kūkākūkā me kekahi. He mea hauʻoli ke ʻike i ka hana like ʻana o nā ʻāpana a hoʻonohonoho i kā lākou moʻolelo ponoʻī; ʻO ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i nā kiʻi pena ma ke kahua hōʻikeʻike he mea nui ia o ka hana ʻana i kahi kino hana. Ma ke ʻano o ke kiʻi kiʻi, hoʻomaka paha wau me kahi manaʻo maʻamau no ke kiʻi pena, i lawe ʻia paha mai kahi kiʻi a i ʻole collage, akā ʻo ke kaʻina hana e koi maoli iā ʻoe i ka ʻae ʻana e pena ʻia kekahi mau kiʻi - ʻo nā ʻāpana. e hana ana! - i hui pū ka mea ma ke ʻano holoʻokoʻa. ʻO kaʻoiaʻiʻo, ma ka lōʻihi o ka manawa, makemake wau i kekahi o nā pena kiʻi haʻahaʻa ma mua o nā kiʻi i loaʻa ke ʻano kūlike iā lākou. Ma muli paha o ko lākou hakakā nui ʻana, i ʻike ʻia. Ma kahi ʻano liʻiliʻi, ʻo ka hana o ka hoʻomaka ʻana i kahi kiʻi pena hou, a i ʻole kekahi hana noʻeau, he hana manaʻolana, malia paha hiki iā mākou ke hana i kēia manawa.

SM: Makemake au i ka manaʻo o ka pena ʻana he hana manaʻolana. Kakaʻikahi au e hana i hoʻokahi kiʻi pena i ka manawa; Nui kaʻu mau kiʻi pena i ke kaʻina hana a e kiʻi wale i hoʻokahi, e hana ma luna no kekahi manawa a neʻe. Makemake au e ʻike iā lākou ma ke ʻano he ʻāpana pepa - hoʻokaʻawale wau iā lākou a ʻaʻole waiwai wau i kekahi o ia mea, me ka manaʻolana e hiki ke kūʻokoʻa i nā māka. A laila, i kekahi manawa, hiki mai kekahi mea kupanaha: loaʻa iā ʻoe ka mea aʻu i kapa ai he 'pena makana' - ka mea i hāʻule i loko o nā minuke, i kekahi manawa ma kahi kāwele i hoʻohana ʻole ʻia akā ʻo ka hapa nui ma hope o nā papa ʻē aʻe. He kūpono anei kēlā? 

FM: ʻOiaʻiʻo. Eia naʻe, ʻo kēlā mau kiʻi pena i manaʻo ʻia e like me nā makana hiki ke hiki wale mai ma muli o nā hana a pau o mua; ke kukulu nei i kahe. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au iā Philip Guston i ka ʻōlelo ʻana ma kahi hālāwai ninaninau e pili ana i ka ʻoluʻolu o ka ʻike ʻana iā ʻoe iho e kau ana i ka pena, aʻu i ʻike ai, a manaʻo wau he ʻakaʻaka loa. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia i kekahi manawa e paʻa ana kekahi mea ma ke kāwele, a he mau hola kāu i kahi ʻano hoʻokuʻu - kahi i ʻole ai kou manaʻo ma mua o kāu hana. Me he mea lā e hiki ke hana i kahi pena i loko o ia mau manawa.  

SM: Manaʻo wau i kekahi manawa, no ke aha mākou e lawe mai ai i nā mea a me nā mea hou aku i ka honua. Akā ma hope o kēia maʻi maʻi a me ka luhi o ka pale i manaʻo ʻia e ka poʻe he nui, ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e pono ke ʻike ʻia nā kiʻi pena ma ka honua kino he mea hōʻoluʻolu. Hiki paha iā lākou ke loaʻa iā mākou i kēlā manawa a i kahi manawa no ka nānā ʻana. 

FM: ʻAe, post-pandemic Ke kakali nei au i ka ʻike ʻana i nā hōʻikeʻike hou ma nā wahi maoli o ke ao kino! 

He mea pena kiʻi ʻo Fionna Murray ma ke kūlanakauhale ʻo Galway a ua hōʻike ʻia e The Eagle Gallery, Lākana.

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He mea pena kiʻi ʻo Selma Makela ma Galway. O ia Ke hana nei i kēia manawa i kahi hōʻikeʻike solo ma The Whitaker Museum a me Art Gallery, UK, e wehe ana i ʻOkakopa 2022.  

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