NINAU MAI O THOMAS POOL STITCHER ROSA RONAN NO KA ROS TAPESTRY – HE PAPA NO KA MANAO 27 MAKAHIKI I KA MOKUKAUA I KA MOOLELO MEDIEVAL O ROSS HOU A ME KA HEMA HEMA O IRELAND.
Thomas Pool: He aha kāu e haʻi mai ai iā mākou e pili ana i kou kūlana? He aha kāu i huki ai i ka papahana Ros Tapestry?
Rosa Ronan: No New Ross au, ua noho koʻu ʻohana ma ʻaneʻi no ʻeiwa mau hanauna. Ua hele au i ke kula ma Holy Faith Convent, a ma hope iho ua aʻo au i ka hoʻokele hōkele no ʻelua makahiki. A laila hele au i Wexford, a laila Kelemānia, a laila i Cork no hoʻokahi makahiki, a laila hana wau i ʻekolu makahiki ma ka Hotel Shelbourne ma Dublin. Ua maʻi koʻu makuahine, a pono wau e hoʻi i ka home i New Ross, e kōkua iā ia e hoʻokele i kāna cafe. A laila, hui au me John Ronan, male māua i ka makahiki 1965, a loaʻa iā māua ʻelua keiki kāne: ʻo David lāua ʻo Sean.
ʻAʻole au i hoihoi nui i ka humuhumu ʻana, akā i ka manawa i ʻike ai ʻo Reverend Paul Mooney o Saint Mary's ma New Ross i ka Bayeux Tapestries, ua hoʻoikaika ʻia ʻo ia e hana i ka papahana Ros Tapestry. Me ka mea pena kiʻi kūloko ʻo Ann Bernstorff a me kāna kaikamahine ʻo Alexis, ua hoʻomaka lāua i ka papahana ma 1998. He ʻokoʻa loa ka Ros Tapestry mai ka Bayeux, nāna i hoʻoikaika iā ia, ua hana nui ia i ke kaiāulu, me ke aloha nui, a me ke kōkua ʻana i kekahi i kekahi.
Ua holo au iā Alexis Bernstorff i kekahi lā ma ke alanui, a nīnau mai ʻo ia iaʻu inā e komo wau i ka papahana, a ʻōlelo wau, 'ʻae maikaʻi kēlā.' No laila no ka makahiki aʻe, ua aʻo au i ka humuhumu. Ua hana nui ʻo Ann Bernstorff i ka hoʻolālā ʻana i ke kiʻi no nā panela, nānā ʻo ia i nā mea a lākou i ʻaʻahu ai i kēlā manawa, nā mea a lākou e ʻai ai, nā holoholona a lākou, nā mea āpau e pili ana i ke ʻano o ke ola i ka wā kahiko ʻo Ireland.
Mai ka makahiki 1998 a hiki i ka makahiki 2025, ua ʻoi aku ma mua o 180 mau mea manawaleʻa. ʻO wau iho a me 15 mau wahine ʻē aʻe, akā he poʻe hou mākou e hele mai nei e aʻo a komo.
Kapa mākou i ka mea a mākou e hana ai 'pena me ka milo', ʻo ia ka hana hili ʻana, akā pono ʻoe e neʻe mau me ka hoʻolālā a me ke kahe o ka humuhumu. Mai koʻu hoʻomaka ʻana, ua aloha au iā ia, a e hana wau a hiki i ka hopena.
Ke hana nei mākou i ʻelua tapestries hou i kēia manawa, e pili ana i ka pilina o New Ross me ʻAmelika a me ʻEulopa Na Loo Hoalohaloha, e hoʻomau iā mākou e hele no kekahi manawa maikaʻi.
TP: Hiki iā ʻoe ke wehewehe i ke komo ʻana o kāu loea i ka papahana Ros Tapestry a hiki i kēia lā? Ma hea ʻoe i aʻo mua ai i kēia mau akamai hana?
RR: Loaʻa iā mākou nā mākau e pono ai no ka papahana, akā i kekahi manawa ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o nā humuhumu ma mua o nā mea ʻē aʻe, a pono ʻoe e makaʻala i ka poʻe hoihoi akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou e hahai i ka hana kiʻi i kekahi manawa, a pono lākou e haehae a hoʻomaka hou. No laila ke kōkua nei au e kiaʻi iā lākou.
Ua hana au no nā makahiki he nui, a hana i nā ʻano mea like ʻole, akā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke pena a kaha kiʻi. ʻO ka mea hana noʻeau wale nō kaʻu i hana ai, ʻo ia ka tapestry.
TP: ʻO ka ʻenehana paʻakikī a paʻakikī, koi ʻia no ia papahana ambisious, he hana koʻikoʻi. Pehea ʻoe a me kou mau hoa humuhumu e hoʻoponopono i kahi papahana nui a lōʻihi?
RR: Ua komo au mai ka wā kokoke i ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ka papahana, a ua hāʻule mākou i loko o ka puana o ia. Hana mākou i ka Poalua, hele mai kekahi mau wahine no kekahi mau hola, akā aia wau i ka lā a pau. He hana koʻikoʻi loa ia, a ua lōʻihi ka hapa nui o mākou ma laila a ʻike wale mākou i ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana. Ua like maoli ia me ka pena me ka milo, a ʻae wale mākou i ka hana noʻeau e alakaʻi iā mākou.
TP: Ua ʻike hou ʻia ʻo New Ross i ka manaʻo hou e like me ke ʻano o ka moʻolelo a Claire Keegan, Na Mea Li'ili'i e like me keia (Grove Press, 2021), a me ka hoʻololi kiʻiʻoniʻoni o ka inoa like, me Cillian Murphy. Pehea ʻoe e ʻike ai i ka Ros Tapestry i loko o ka mōʻaukala kūloko a me ka moʻolelo aupuni?
RR: He papahana koʻikoʻi loa ia, manaʻolana wau e ʻike ʻia ʻo ia ma mua o ka Bayeux Tapestry, ua hele mai mākou i nā poʻe mai Bayeux, a ʻaʻohe lākou!
I ka hoʻomaka ʻana e aʻo i ka hana ʻana i ka tapestry, pono mākou e hana hou i nā kiʻi pena i hana ʻia e Ann Bernstorff, me ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka pahu kukui a me ka pepa acetate, a laila ʻōwili paʻa loa mākou ma luna o kahi mea ulana. Pono mākou e aʻo i ʻewalu humuhumu, a ma ka nānā wale ʻana ua ʻike mākou i ke ʻano o nā humuhumu i makemake ʻia ma hea.
No laila he hana nui loa ia, a ke manaʻo nei au he mea nui loa ka Ros Tapestry no ke kaona. Ua hele nā tausani o ka poʻe e ʻike iā ia i ka makahiki i hala ma Kilkenny Castle, kahi i hōʻike ʻia ai. Manaʻo mākou e hoʻoneʻe iā ia i loko o ka Norman Center hou e wehe ʻia ma New Ross i 2027.
TP: Akaka ka hoʻoulu ʻana o ka wā kahiko no ka tapestry, me kona ʻano, hoʻolālā, a me nā mea hana e like me ka Bayeux Tapestry. Manaʻo paha ʻoe i kēia ʻano medieval i kaupalena ʻia ka hana ʻana o nā mea humuhumu? A i ʻole he mea kōkua ka haʻi ʻana i ka moʻolelo o New Ross a me Wexford, kahi ʻaʻole paha kahi ʻano hou o kēia manawa?
RR: Manaʻo wau he mea nui loa ke ʻano no ka moʻolelo, a nani loa ka wehewehe ʻana a Ann Bernstorff i ke ʻano.
Hauʻoli wau i ka hana ʻana ma ia ʻano. Inā wau i waho i ka ululāʻau i kēia manawa, a ʻike au i kahi fern maikaʻi a i ʻole kekahi mea, makemake wau e hoʻāʻo e humuhumu. Ke hoʻohuli nei iaʻu i ka noʻonoʻo i kekahi manawa! E ho'āʻo wale wau a hana nui loa.
Hoʻokahe ia i loko o koʻu mau lā a pau, a he ʻenehana ia ʻaʻole au e nalowale i kēia manawa.
TP: Ke hana mau nei nā Stitchers mai ka makahiki 1998 e hoʻopau i ka Ros Tapestry. Me 14 o na paneli he 15 o ka tapestry i pau i keia manawa, pehea kou manao e launa pu ka lehulehu me ka Tapestry?
RR: Manaʻo wau e mahalo lākou, pono lākou, no ka hana kupaianaha i hoʻokomo ʻia i loko. Manaʻo wau e pono ka poʻe e hele mai e ʻike, aia kekahi poʻe ma New Ross e ʻōlelo mai nei iaʻu 'ʻAʻole wau i ʻike i laila,' no laila pono mākou i nā poʻe hou aʻe e hele mai e ʻike.
ʻO kaʻu kāne ʻo John kekahi o nā kāne humuhumu kāne wale nō e hana ma luna o ia mea, a ua hana pū ʻo ia me aʻu ma ia mea no nā makahiki he ʻumi, ua hana ʻo ia i ka ʻāpana Walls of Ross aʻo wau i hana ma ka Irish a me Noremana ma ka hale kūʻai. Kapa ʻia kēlā papa mail, a he mea kūikawā loa ia iaʻu.
He mea humuhumu manawaleʻa ʻo Rosa Ronan no ka papahana Ros Tapestry.
