NINAU MAI O THOMAS POOL STITCHER SUSAN SYNNOTT NO KA ROS TAPESTRY – HE PAPA NO KA MANAO 27 MAKAHIKI I KA MOKUKAUA I KA MOOLELO MEDIEVAL O ROSS HOU A ME KA HEMA HEMA O IRELAND.
Thomas Pool: He aha kāu e haʻi mai ai iā mākou e pili ana i kou kūlana? He aha kāu i huki ai i ka papahana Ros Tapestry?
Susan Synnott: Ua hoihoi au i ka hana noeau mai ko'u mau la kula. He 20 mau makahiki koʻu noho hoʻoponopono lole me New Ross Musical Society. He ʻanakē koʻu he mea hana lole, a ua haʻi ʻia iaʻu ua hoʻoili mai iaʻu i kāna hana hana! Manaʻo wau ua ulu au a puni kēia ʻano leʻaleʻa. Ma ke kulanui (kahi aʻu i aʻo ai i ka Hotel Management) i nā makahiki 1970, ua hoʻololi au a hana i nā lole no nā hoaaloha, me nā lole debs a me nā lole mare. ʻO ka mōʻaukala, me ka moʻolelo o koʻu kūlanakauhale, he mea hoihoi ia noʻu. Aia koʻu ʻohana ma New Ross no nā hanauna a hiki ke ʻike ʻia ma ke kaona a hiki i ke kaua ʻo Ross i ka makahiki 1798.
Hiki iaʻu ke hōʻaiʻē iā Rosa Ronan a me kāna kāne hope ʻo John no koʻu hoihoi i ka Ros Tapestry. Ua lohe au e pili ana i ka papahana i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai akā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke komo pū me ia. Ua hele au e ʻike i kahi hōʻikeʻike o kekahi o nā panela i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ma ka paka kūlanakauhale i ka makahiki 2007 i ka makahiki 800.th ka lā hoʻomanaʻo o ka hoʻokumu ʻia ʻana o New Ross e William Marshall a me kāna wahine ʻo Isabel. Ua hauʻoli loa wau i kaʻu mea i ʻike ai! ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo i ka nui o nā panela e like me lākou - manaʻo wau he nani wale lākou! Ua hui au iā Rosa lāua ʻo John ma laila (ua ʻike au iā lāua no nā makahiki ma mua o kēia) a ua paipai mai lākou iaʻu e lilo i mea humuhumu. He ʻelua makahiki hou aʻe, ma mua o koʻu hiki ʻana ke komo, akā i ka manawa i hoʻomaka ai au i ka makahiki 2009, ʻaʻole wau i haʻalele!
TP: Hiki iā ʻoe ke wehewehe i ke komo ʻana o kāu loea i ka papahana Ros Tapestry a hiki i kēia lā?
SS: Ua hana au i hoʻokahi papa hana humuhumu me Alexis Bernstorff, ka mea hoʻoponopono humuhumu o ka papahana. Ma hope o ka lawelawe ʻana i kahi manawa hoʻāʻo ma kahi o ʻeono mahina, me ke aʻo ʻana i nā humuhumu humuhumu like ʻole e Alexis, ua holomua au i ka humuhumu ʻana ma nā panela nui. Ma ke ʻano o ia papa, ua hana au i kahi module ma ke alakaʻi huakaʻi me Ann Bernstorff, ka mea nāna i hana i nā kiʻi paʻi kiʻi i hoʻohana ʻia i ka hana ʻana i nā tapestries. Ua makemake mau au i ka moʻolelo kūloko, no laila makemake au i ka hana ʻana i nā huakaʻi a me ka haʻi ʻana i nā moʻolelo mōʻaukala i hōʻike ʻia ma nā paneli. Ua hana au ma ke ʻano he alakaʻi mākaʻikaʻi me ka tapestry i ke kauwela o 2010 a me 2011, i ka wā i noho ai lākou i loko o ka Priory Court. I kēia manawa, ua hoʻohana ʻia ka tapestry ma o ka JFK Trust, kahi aʻu i hana ai ma ke ʻano he chef ma ka hale ʻaina ʻo Dunbrody Center.
I ka makahiki 2014, ua hāʻawi ʻia ʻo New Ross Needlecraft, nā kahu o ka Ros Tapestry, i ke kālā ma o Pobal no ʻekolu mau limahana manawa piha no lākou iho. Hana ʻo Pobal ma ka ʻaoʻao o ke aupuni, a me ka hui pū ʻana me nā kaiāulu a me nā keʻena kūloko, e kākoʻo i ka hoʻopili ʻana i ka nohona a me ka hoʻomohala kūloko a me ke kaiāulu. ʻO wau kekahi o nā mea ʻekolu i koho ʻia i alakaʻi huakaʻi. Ua hoʻopau wau i ka hana ʻana i nā moʻolelo, kūʻai aku a me nā mea āpau e pono ai e holo i ka ʻoihana o kēlā me kēia lā no nā alakaʻi. Makemake au i ka hana huakaʻi a ʻike i ka hauʻoli mau o nā malihini i ka hōʻike. ʻOiai ua hoʻohana au i kēia manawa e ka hui, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke humuhumu, no ka mea, he poʻe manawaleʻa nā mea humuhumu. ʻO ka mea pōʻino, pono e neʻe ka hōʻikeʻike i Kilkenny Castle i ka wā maʻi Covid-19 a kokoke e wehe hou i New Ross. Ma hope o ka maʻi maʻi, ua hoʻi au ma ke ʻano he humuhumu manawaleʻa, a e hoʻomau au ma laila i ka wā e hiki ai iaʻu.
TP: ʻO ka ʻenehana paʻakikī a paʻakikī, koi ʻia no ia papahana ambisious, he hana koʻikoʻi. Pehea ʻoe a me kou mau hoa humuhumu e hoʻoponopono i kahi papahana nui a lōʻihi?
SS: ʻOiai he poʻe manawaleʻa mākou a pau, hana mākou i ka wā hiki iā mākou. I kēia manawa, hoʻokahi wale nō kakahiaka o ka pule. I kekahi manawa ma mua, ua humuhumu pinepine mākou, akā no ka pau ʻana o nā panela Ros Tapestry a mākou i hana ai - ʻokoʻa ka panel Ossory, e hana ʻia nei e kā mākou Kilkenny stitchers - ʻaʻole mākou e wikiwiki loa. Hana mākou ma kā mākou wikiwiki, a lōʻihi ka lōʻihi. He manawa nui ia; e humuhumu wale ʻoe ma kahi o hoʻokahi ʻīniha kuea i hoʻokahi hola, no laila e lōʻihi ka manawa. Leʻaleʻa mākou i ka hui ʻana o kekahi a he nui nā kamaʻilio leʻaleʻa i ko mākou humuhumu ʻana. He leʻaleʻa hoʻomaha loa ia kahi e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke poina i kou mau manaʻo e nalowale ana i ka paʻakikī o ka hana āu e hana nei. Inā he mau makahiki ka humuhumu ʻana i kahi papa, pono nō. ʻAʻole hiki ke holo wikiwiki ka hemolele !!
TP: ʻO ka mea maʻamau, ʻaʻole i hōʻike nui ʻia ka hana wili (me ka hili ʻana, ka wili, a me ka crochet) i ka canon mōʻaukala. Pehea ʻoe e ʻike ai i ka wahi o ka hana nila ma ka mōʻaukala moʻomeheu Irish?
SS: Loaʻa i nā ʻano hana noʻeau a me nā hana hana ma kekahi ʻano a i ʻole ma ka mōʻaukala moʻomeheu Irish. Ua ʻike nui ʻia ke kiʻi e like me ke aniani ʻeleʻele ma ka moʻomeheu Irish – no ka laʻana, hōʻike ʻia ko Harry Clarke kiʻi kaulana i ka honua ma ka National Museum. ʻO ka Needlecraft o nā ʻano like ʻole, e like me ka wili, wili, a me ka hana lace, he ʻāpana nui o kā mākou moʻomeheu moʻomeheu - mai Aran knitwear a me New Ross Lace, a hiki i Mountmellick Embroidery. ʻIke ʻia paha ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻi make, akā he ala maikaʻi loa ia e haʻi ai i kahi moʻolelo. Hōʻike ka Ros Tapestry ma ke kaula, ka moʻolelo o ka hōʻea ʻana o nā Noremana i ʻIlelani i ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ka 12th kenekulia a me ko lākou mana i ka wā e hiki mai ana o ka ʻāina. Ua ʻike ʻia ʻo Embroidery ma ke ʻano he ala e haʻi ai i nā moʻolelo mōʻaukala, kaulana loa i ka Bayeux Tapestry ma Farani.
TP: Ua ʻike hou ʻia ʻo New Ross i ka manaʻo hou e like me ke ʻano o ka moʻolelo a Claire Keegan, Na Mea Li'ili'i e like me keia (Grove Press, 2021), a me ka hoʻololi kiʻiʻoniʻoni o ka inoa like, me Cillian Murphy. Pehea ʻoe e ʻike ai i ka Ros Tapestry i loko o ka mōʻaukala kūloko a me ka moʻolelo aupuni?
SS: ʻO ka Ros Tapestry, inā kūʻai pono ʻia, hiki ke hoʻohui i ka waiwai mākaʻikaʻi o New Ross. ʻO ka mōʻaukala o ka hoʻokumu ʻia ʻana o New Ross a me ka hopena o Norman ma nā wahi he nui o Ireland e hoʻomaka ana ma South Wexford kahi i pae mua ai nā Noremana. ʻO ka moʻolelo i hōʻike ʻia ma ka Ros Tapestry ka hapa mua o kā mākou moʻolelo. Hōʻike ia i nā hanana ma nā wahi e like me Hook Lighthouse, Tintern Abbey, Saint Mary's church ma New Ross, a me nā loulou me Waterford, Kilkenny Castle, a me nā wahi ʻē aʻe he nui no Norman. Hiki i nā malihini ke nānā i kēia moʻolelo i haʻi ʻia ma ka pae ma kā mākou hōʻikeʻike a laila e ʻimi i nā wahi he nui a lākou i aʻo ai e pili ana i nā panela. Ua ʻike mua ʻia ʻo New Ross ʻo ka ʻāina hānau o ka ʻohana o ka Pelekikena John F. Kennedy, a ʻo ka home home kahi mea hoʻokipa kaulana.
He laʻana ka moku wī Dunbrody o ka moʻolelo kaumaha o ka wī ma ʻIlelani mai 1845 a i 1852. ʻO ka moʻolelo a Claire Keegan e pili ana i kā mākou mea i hala aku nei a me ka mana o ka hale pule Katolika i ka poʻe Irish. E like me kāu e ʻike ai, hiki ke ʻike ʻia ka moʻolelo kūloko a me ka lāhui mai ka wā Noremana a hiki i kēia manawa ma ko mākou kūlanakauhale liʻiliʻi.
TP: Akaka ka hoʻoulu ʻana o ka wā kahiko no ka tapestry, me kona ʻano, hoʻolālā, a me nā mea hana e like me ka Bayeux Tapestry. Manaʻo paha ʻoe i kēia ʻano medieval i kaupalena ʻia ka hana ʻana o nā mea humuhumu? A i ʻole he mea kōkua ka haʻi ʻana i ka moʻolelo o New Ross a me Wexford, kahi ʻaʻole paha kahi ʻano hou o kēia manawa?
SS: ʻO ke ʻano o ka wili e like me ka mea i hoʻohana ʻia ma ka Ros Tapestry ua ʻike ʻia ʻo Crewel embroidery a i koʻu manaʻo, he ʻano pau ʻole ia. He kūpono ia i ke ʻano o nā kiʻi paʻi kiʻi a mākou e hana ai, he medieval. ʻO ka mea pena i kaha kiʻi i kā mākou kiʻi kiʻi i hana i ka noiʻi mōʻaukala nui ma mua o ka pena ʻana iā lākou. Paʻi ʻo ia i ka mea i kapa ʻia ʻo ke ʻano kiʻi kiʻi naive, kahi e hāʻawi ai i kona ʻano medieval. ʻO ka haʻi ʻana o ka moʻolelo ma ke kālai ʻana e pili ana i ke kiʻi kiʻi i hoʻokumu ʻia ai ka hana.
ʻIke ʻia ka noʻonoʻo ʻana o nā humuhumu i kā mākou hana o kēia manawa, ʻike ʻia ʻo ia Na Loo Hoalohaloha. ʻO kēia kino o ka hana i hana ʻia i ʻelua panela nui e pili ana i ka nui like me nā panela Ros Tapestry. Ua ʻike ʻia lākou i kēlā me kēia ke kuikahi - ka mea e hōʻike ākea i nā loulou ma waena o ʻIlelani a me ka Hui ʻEulopa - a Ke hele mai nei i kahi Home, e hōʻike ana i ka pilina ma waena o ʻIlelani a me ʻAmelika, e hoʻopili ana me ka moʻolelo o ka moku ʻo Dunbrody Famine. Hoʻohana ʻia nā humuhumu ʻauwaʻa like, me ka hulu hipa like a me ka lole olonā, akā ʻokoʻa loa ke ʻano o ka huahana hope a ʻoi aku ka hou o kēia manawa. Eia hou, ʻo ke kiʻi kiʻi kahi i hoʻokumu ʻia ai nā panela e kuhikuhi i ke ʻano o ka huahana hope. ʻO ka mea pena i hana i kēia mau kiʻi kiʻi, ʻo Reiltin Murphy, he loea calligraphy, a ʻike ʻia hoʻi kēia ma ke ʻano o kāna mau kiʻi paʻi.
TP: Ke hana mau nei nā Stitchers mai nā makahiki 2000 e hoʻopau i ka Ros Tapestry. Me 14 o na paneli he 15 o ka tapestry i pau i keia manawa, heaha na manao no ka hana i pau?
SS: E hōʻike ʻia ka hana i hoʻopau ʻia i loko o kahi hale hōʻikeʻike Norman hou, kahi e waiho ʻia ma kahi hale panakō kahiko ma ke awa ma New Ross. Maʻaneʻi, e lilo lākou i wahi kikowaena o ka hale hōʻikeʻike. Hoʻohana pū ʻia kēia papahana e Wexford County Council, ka JFK Trust (ʻo ia ka mea e hana ana i ka Dunbrody Famine Experience a me ka Kennedy Homestead) a me New Ross Needlecraft, me Failte Ireland pū kekahi. Manaʻo ʻia e wehe ʻia kēia hale hōʻikeʻike i ka makahiki 2027. Ua hōʻike ʻia nā panela he 14 i hoʻopau ʻia ma Kilkenny Castle, ma lalo o ka mālama ʻana a ka OPW, no nā makahiki ʻekolu a ʻehā paha. I kēia manawa ua hoʻi lākou i New Ross, kahi e hōʻike ʻia ai lākou a hiki i ka pau ʻana o ko lākou home mau. E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai ma mua, ke hana nei nā stitchers i kā mākou 'Threads of Friendship' panels, i kēia manawa ua pau kā mākou hana ma nā panels Ros Tapestry. Ke humuhumu nei mākou i nā ʻāpana liʻiliʻi mai nā panela nui e kūʻai aku i mau mea hoʻomanaʻo o ka Ros Tapestry.
ʻO Susan Synnott he mea humuhumu manawaleʻa no ka papahana Ros Tapestry.
