NINAU ANA ʻO ELLA DE BÚRCA iā ELIZABETH COPE E PILI ANA I KA HOʻOLOHOLO ANA O KANA HANA PENI.
Ella de Búrca: Hiki iā ʻoe ke wehe i kāu mau hana mua a he aha ka mea i alakaʻi iā ʻoe i ka pena?
Elizabeth Cope: I koʻu wā kamaliʻi, lawe koʻu makuakāne iā mākou a puni i nā monuments like ʻole. Ua kanu ʻia kekahi o ko mākou ʻohana ma Killín Cormac ma County Kildare. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au i ka ʻike ʻana i nā pōhaku ʻo Ogham i ka lua kupapaʻu (i ʻaihue ʻia ma hope) a pono ʻoe e unuhi i ka ʻōlelo Latina. ʻO kēia mau ʻano mea i hoʻoikaika iaʻu.
I koʻu mau makahiki ʻeiwa, ua hoʻi mai koʻu kaikuahine ʻo Phil mai Paris mai me kahi pahu pena aila; ʻo ka ʻala o kēlā mau pena ʻaila i hoʻowalewale iaʻu i mea pena. Ua hāʻawi mai ʻo ia iaʻu i kahi mana liʻiliʻi o ka Baibala ma nā kiʻi, a ke hoʻomanaʻo pono nei au i ka ʻike ʻana i kahi kiʻi o Rembrandt's. Kristo ma ke kea (1631). ʻO koʻu ʻanakē kekahi mea hoʻoikaika nui; Ua hoʻokani ʻo ia iā Chopin iaʻu.

EdB: He kuleana anei ke mele i kāu mau pena pena?
EC: He mea koʻikoʻi ke mele ma mua o ka pena noʻu, no ka mea, ʻo ia ke mele o ke ola. Aloha au i ka leo kanaka. ʻIke au i ka hīmeni ʻana i mea hoʻoikaika. Ua hīmeni au ma koʻu hui hīmeni kūloko, ma ka hui himeni o Saint James ma Dublin, a ma ka Cork Choral Festival. Makemake au i nā ʻano mele like ʻole, akā pono wau e ʻōlelo, e hoʻi mau wau i nā punahele kahiko - ka opera a me ka ballet. Ua ʻike au iā Rudolf Nureyev e hula ana me Margot Fonteyn i koʻu 19. He 36 ʻo ia a he 53. Ua hele au i ka Wexford Opera Festival i kēia makahiki a makemake au iā Donizetti Le Convenienze Ed Inconvenienze Teatrali (1827). Ua maikaʻi ka maikaʻi o ka hīmeni ʻana a puni. Manaʻo wau e hoʻololi ʻia ka GPO i National Opera House.
EdB: Loaʻa iā ʻoe nā ʻano manaʻo i kāu hana pena kiʻi a i ʻole nā kumuhana āu e makemake ai e nānā?
EC: ʻAʻole au hana i nā kumuhana. Hāʻawi ke ola i kāna mau kumuhana iā ʻoe. Paʻi au i kēlā me kēia kumuhana ma lalo o ka lā, no laila ʻo nā kumuhana nā mea āpau. ʻO ka mea nui loa, e like me ke kihi o ka papaʻaina, hiki ke lilo i kiʻi nani loa iaʻu. ʻO ke ʻano a me ka physiology he mea nui like. ʻO nā kānaka, nā holoholona, nā mea kanu, nā minerala - he kumu ia noʻu e kau ai i ka pena. ʻO ke kumuhana ka pena ponoʻī. Paʻakikī nā mea a pau a maʻalahi nā mea a pau. ʻAʻole wau manaʻoʻiʻo i ka huaʻōlelo 'wale' a ʻaʻole wau manaʻoʻiʻo i ka huaʻōlelo 'hikiʻole'. Hiki ke hiki.

EdB: He aha ke kuleana o ke kaha kiʻi ma kāu hana?
EC: ʻO ke kaha kiʻi ka iwi pena. Pono ke kaha ki'i. Me ke kaha ʻole, ʻaʻohe ʻoe. E lawe i nā keiki, no ka laʻana. ʻAʻole wau e ʻōlelo nei hiki i kēlā me kēia keiki ke kaha kiʻi maikaʻi, akā a hiki i ka ʻeiwa makahiki, loaʻa i nā keiki kēia kūʻokoʻa, kahi ʻike e kaha kiʻi ai, a laila pehea ka mea? Hoʻokuke lākou. Manaʻo lākou "he kamaliʻi kēia mea kiʻi."
Ua aʻo au i hoʻokahi haʻawina maikaʻi loa, i koʻu hele ʻana i Lākana i ka makahiki 19. Ua hana au no Ms Holland ma kahi ʻoihana hoʻolaha, a pena ʻo ia i kona manawa kaʻawale. Loaʻa iā ia ka lima lima maikaʻi loa aʻu i ʻike ai. Ua hoʻohana ʻo ia i kona lima hema. I kona wā liʻiliʻi, kākau ʻo ia me kona lima ʻākau, akā i ka wā o ke kaua, luhi loa kona lima a hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻo ia iā ia iho e hoʻohana i kona lima hema, a hoʻohana ʻo ia i ke koena o kona ola. ʻO kaʻu e ʻōlelo aku ai iā ʻoe a i ʻole kekahi mea makemake e kaha kiʻi: e hoʻohana i ka lima ʻē aʻe no ka mea ʻaʻohe mea lapuwale i loko. Maʻa ʻoe i ka moʻolelo kahiko me ka lima hoʻokahi āu e hoʻohana ai.
ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o ke kākau ʻana a i ʻole ka hōʻailona ʻana i nā mea āu e ʻike ai, ma mua o ka mea āu e manaʻo ai. Loaʻa iā mākou ka manaʻo o ke ʻano o kekahi mea i loko o ko mākou mau poʻo, ʻo ia hoʻi, ʻaʻole mākou e nānā i ke kumuhana. Pono mākou e nānā. ʻO ka hui lima-maka. Makemake ka poʻe i ka hemolele – akā ʻaʻole loaʻa ka hemolele. Kahakiʻi ʻoe i ka wā e neʻe ana nā kānaka. Aloha au i ka poʻe e kamaʻilio mai iaʻu ke pena au iā lākou. Nā holoholona e neʻe ana, pāʻani nā keiki - he mea nui loa ia. E ho'āʻo ʻoe e hopu iā ia i ka wikiwiki e like me kou hiki.
EdB: Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio hou e pili ana i ke kiʻi kiʻi ola?
EC: I koʻu lā mua ma ke kula ʻo Sir John Cass School of Art ma Lākana, aia kekahi wahine hoʻohālike - aia ʻo ia ma waena o kona mau makahiki he 70, manaʻo wau. Ma laila ʻo ia i noho ai, ʻaʻohe kapa, hoʻopuni wale ʻia e nā kāne, koe wale nō wau. Ua kamaʻilio au iā ia i ka wā hoʻomaha, a ua ʻike ʻia he kumu hoʻohālike ʻo ia no ka mea pena kiʻi Welsh, ʻo Augustus John (1878-1961). ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he loulou maikaʻi loa i ka wā i hala. Inā makemake ʻoe e maikaʻi i ke kaha kiʻi ola, pono ʻoe e noho iā ʻoe iho, e hoʻomaopopo i ka paʻakikī. Ua hele au ma nā papa kaha kiʻi kahi i ʻike ʻole ai ka poʻe he nui i ke kumu hoʻohālike. Aia ke kumu hoʻohālike i ke kaha kiʻi a pena. No ka hoʻomaka ʻana, pono ʻoe e hōʻoia ua ʻoluʻolu lākou. ʻAʻole hana nā kānaka a pau i kumu hoʻohālike maikaʻi akā ʻo ka poʻe āu e manaʻo ʻole nei he mau hiʻohiʻona maikaʻi.

EdB: Ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia ʻōlelo ma kāu pūnaewele: "Ua like ka hana o ka pena kiʻi me ka hana ʻana i ka post-mortem." Hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻonui i kēia?
EC: ʻO ka mea mua, i ka hana ʻana i kahi hana, aia ka subconscious ma laila a i ka manawa like, pono ʻoe e kiʻi i ka pena e hana, e like me ke kauka ʻoki e hoʻoponopono ana i ka wāwae haki. Pono ʻoe e hoʻoponopono i nā mea. Ua like ia me ke ʻano ʻelua. Hana ʻoe ma nā pae ʻelua: ka pae ʻike a me ka pae subconscious.
He mau mea pena mākou a pau, ma kekahi ʻano a i ʻole kekahi. ʻO ka mea nui e pili ana i nā ʻano hana noʻeau a pau i koʻu manaʻo, ʻo ka hoʻomākeʻaka a me ka leʻaleʻa. No ke aha ʻoe e hana nei? Ua hoʻopaʻa ʻia ka mea kākau Irish ʻo Brian Keenan ma Beirut no ʻehā a me ka hapa makahiki ma hope o ka lawe ʻia ʻana e ka Islamic Jihad. ʻO kekahi paʻahao, ʻo John McCarthy, i ʻōlelo ʻia ʻo ka naʻau o Brian i hoʻomau iā lākou. He mea maikaʻi ʻo ia i ka nānā ʻana i ka honua. I kekahi lā, iā Keenan e noho ana i loko o kāna ipu, ua nīnau ʻia ʻo ia e kāna poʻe hopu iā ia "He aha kāu makemake?" i pane aku ai: "Auwe, he piano nui."

ʻO Ella de Búrca he mea pena a he kumu aʻo kōkua ma NCAD.
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He mea pena kiʻi ʻo Elizabeth Cope ma Kilkenny. Ua hōʻike ʻia kahi hōʻikeʻike nui o kāna hana, 'The Palpable Bump on the Bridge of the Nose', ma VISUAL (23 Kepakemapa 2022 - 8 Jan 2023), ʻoiai ʻo 'Elisabeth Cope - Mai ka Maka i ka Puʻuwai' i hōʻike ʻia ma Maison. ʻO Depoivre Art Gallery ma Ontario, Kanada (31 ʻAukake - 29 Kepakemapa 2024).
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