NĀ Nīnauele PILLAG SPILLANE ʻekolu mau ʻatikala ʻike e hana nei ma PHOTOGRAPHY.
ʻO Pádraig Spillane: Mālama kēlā me kēia o ʻoukou i ka mea i hiki ke wehewehe ʻia ma ke ʻano he hana 'hybrid', e hana pū ana me nā ʻano hana kiʻi kiʻi like ʻole a me nā kiʻi paʻi kiʻi, ʻoiai e hoʻokau nei i nā palena o ka hana kiʻi ʻana a me ka hōʻike. Hiki paha iā ʻoe ke hoʻolauna i kekahi o kāu hana hana?
Roseanne Lynch: Ke noho nei wau ma Leipzig no ka manawa pōkole a hana i nā hana hou me ka Bauhaus Foundation, Dessau. I ka mua ua pane kēia hana hou i ka hale kula ʻo Bauhaus (hoʻolālā ʻia e Walter Gropius a kūkulu ʻia i ka makahiki 1926), a me ka Hale ʻImi ʻImi Na Nā Hale a me nā Pono Pono. Eia naʻe, ua holomua ka hana. I kēia manawa, ke lawe nei wau i kaʻu hana i nā loina o ka papa mua o ke kula ʻo Bauhaus, kahi mea i hoʻonui i ka hoʻomaka hou ʻana a hoʻokolohua hoʻi me nā mea. No kēia, ʻo kaʻu meahana nui ka photogram. Kau wau i nā mea i ka pepa māmā ma ka lumi pouli, e hoʻomālamalama ana i ka malamalama iā lākou e hana i nā kuhi, ma kahi o nā kiʻi o nā mea. ʻO nā ʻano Geometrical a me nā mea e pili ana i ka hoʻolālā Bauhaus a me ke ʻano o ke paʻi kiʻi ʻana kaʻu kumuhana. Ke nānā nei wau e hoʻomaopopo i ka grammar o nā mea.
ʻO Darn Thorn: Noʻu, ʻo ka manaʻo o ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa hybrid ka mea e hoʻohana ai i kahi media kikoʻī, ma ke ʻano he mea e hoʻopuka i kahi hoʻonāukiuki a i ʻole e pane i ka mea nānā. Hoʻokomo pinepine kaʻu hana me nā kumuhana kumumanaʻo: nā manaʻo o utopia a me ka hopena o ka trauma moʻomeheu. Ma ka hoʻohui ʻana i nā kaʻina hana kuʻuna a me nā hana o kēia wā i kaʻu hana, ua hana ʻia ka pohihihi, kahi o ka kiʻi ʻaʻole "kahiko" a ʻaʻole "hou" akā kahi mea liʻiliʻi e wehewehe ʻia - maliʻa paha he mea mutant. Eia kekahi, no kēia kumu, ke koho o ka pāpāho aʻu e hoʻohana ai i nā loli me kēlā me kēia papahana.
ʻO Ríisín White: wehewehe wau i kaʻu hana ma ke ʻano he lens-i hoʻohana ʻia, me ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka archival a loaʻa nā kiʻi paʻi, i hui pū ʻia me nā kiʻi collage a me nā kiʻi kālai. ʻO ke kiʻi ke kiʻi lele - nā kiʻi aʻu i hana ai, a i ʻole nā kiʻi i loaʻa ai iaʻu i nā makasina, nā kūkālā pūnaewele, a i ʻole nā hanana ola. ʻO kēlā me kēia kūlana o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā huna ahi i kekahi mea ʻokoʻa i ka hana. ʻAʻole wau ʻoluʻolu inā he 'kiʻi wale' ia. Hoʻohana wau i ka collage e hoʻololi a hoʻonui i ke kiʻi. Hoʻopuka hou wau i nā kiʻi ma nā pepa like ʻole a me nā mea, e ʻike pehea ai lākou e pane ai i kēia mau ʻilikai. Ke ʻimi nei au i nā kākoʻo e hāʻawi i ka lihi hoihoi, i ka manawa i haehae ʻia. Makemake au e paʻi i nā lehulehu, wili iā lākou, neʻe a hoʻoponopono iā lākou. ʻO kēia pilina pili pono a maʻalahi hoʻi me ka waiwai o nā kiʻi i mea nui i kaʻu hana hana. Ke hoʻāʻo nei wau e hoʻonui i kaʻu hana i ke kiʻi kiʻi, ma ka hoʻokomo ʻana i nā kiʻi me nā mea 3D, me ka ʻole he kiʻi wale nō ia i kahi mea.
PS: Hoʻonui i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa kiʻi paʻi kiʻi pehea e hana ai nā kiʻi - pehea e hana ai a hoʻopau ʻia ai; pehea e hiki ai iā lākou ke hoʻololi ʻia e nā pūnaewele o ka hoʻolaha ʻana, mālama a me ke komo ʻana; ʻoiai e kamaʻilio pū ana i nā hanana mana i kū i waena o nā kiʻi. Ma ka lawe ʻana i kahi hana i hoʻokumu ʻia i ka hana, hiki i nā kiʻi ke hōʻalo i nā mahele, a i ʻole e hāʻawi iā lākou i permeable. Pehea ʻoe e hoʻokokoke ai i ka hana kiʻi ʻana i loko o kēia mau palena porous?
RL: Hoʻohui kaʻu hana i nā territory ʻokoʻa o ka medium. ʻOiai wau e hana nui nei i ka lumiʻeleʻele, ʻaʻole wau e hoʻomaʻemaʻe e pili ana i nā kiʻi analogue. Nānā wau i kaʻu mau hōʻino a me nā photograms e hana i nā paʻi kikohoʻe ʻoi aku ka nui ma mua o kuʻu kino e ʻae ai. Hoʻohana wau i nā hoʻolālā a ka hana e pono ai. ʻO koʻu hoihoi i ka waiho ʻana i nā nīnau i hoʻoholo ʻole ʻia, ʻoiai e ʻae nei i ka hoʻololi kūleʻa ma waena o ka hana a me ka mea ʻike. No kēia kumu, ke paʻi nei wau ma luna o ka aluminika a me ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā papa aniani i nā hoʻonohonoho, kahi e kuhikuhi ai i ka nānā a ka mea nānā a lawe i ka maka i ke ʻano kiʻi i nā ala i manaʻo ʻole ʻia. ʻO ka paʻi paʻi kiʻi ma ke ʻano he kiʻi kiʻi kekahi mea hoʻonui aʻe aʻu e hana pū nei. I ka lumi lumi ʻeleʻele, hoʻopili wau i ka pā maʻamau o kahi blueprint kuhikuhipuʻuone i kahi pepa pepa kiʻi. Wehe wau i ka pepa a hoʻomālamalama iā ia me ka lama. ʻO ka mea i hua ʻia he hōʻike ponoʻī nona iho. He hōʻike ia o ke kūlana o kāna hana ponoʻī, ʻaʻohe mea ʻē aʻe.
DT: Manaʻo wau ʻo kēia hiki loa kēia - kēia ola ʻē aʻe i hoʻonui i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa hana no ke kiʻi - hoihoi iaʻu. ʻO kahi mana o ka mana i hiki ke kaupalena i ke kala ʻana o ke kiʻi, ʻo ia ka hoʻokaʻawale ʻia o nā kiʻi a me nā mea e hoʻonui ai i ka hana. ʻO kahi laʻana, aia nā ʻoihana a me nā paʻi maikaʻi loa ma ʻIraniia e nānā nei i ka paʻi kiʻi ʻana, akā ʻaʻohe o ka laulā e neʻe ai i ke kiʻi a i ʻole ka hoʻokomo ʻana i ka ʻike. Hiki i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa hoʻonui ke hoʻopilikia i nā palena o ke kaʻina paʻi kiʻi maʻamau. ʻAʻole hana ia i nā manawa ma nā ʻano photobook a, i nā manawa he nui, pono e hālāwai me he mea hoʻonoho lā.
RW: Ke hoʻopōmaikaʻi nei au i kēia mau palena permeable. Eia nō naʻe, makaʻu wau i kēlā nīnau: "no laila he aha ke ʻano o nā kiʻi paʻi āu e hana nei?" ʻOkoʻa loa kaʻu hana, hiki i ka paʻakikī ke wehewehe ma ke ʻano he 'elepita kēpau'. ʻAʻohe pinepine kahi kiʻi kiʻi hoʻokahi. Ke hana wau ma nā papahana, kahi pou kikowaena o ka noiʻi e hoʻomaopopo i ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻi āpau āpau. Hiki paha iaʻu ke hana i nā kiʻi kālai no kekahi mau pule, a laila e hoʻi i nā kiʻi, a ʻike pehea e hiki ai iā lākou keʻaʻa pollination. ʻO kēia kaʻina hana e pili ana i ka hana kiʻi ʻana e hoʻokuʻu a hana ana hoʻi. ʻOiai ka hapanui o nā hana ma ke keʻena ʻaʻole ʻike i ka mālamalama o ke keʻena, a ʻo kaʻu pūnaewele paha, hauʻoli wau i ka hiki ke kaʻana like i nā paʻi kiʻi o kaʻu hana ma Instagram. Ua ʻae kēia iaʻu e hoʻāʻo i nā ʻāpana a kaʻana like i nā pana ma hope o nā hanana me nā poʻe mai ka honua holoʻokoʻa. ʻO ke kaulike, ʻike wau i ka ʻike i kā lākou hana. ʻOiai ka hopena o nā mea aʻu e kaʻana like ai i ka hopena, aia he mana o ka hana e ola wale nō ma Instagram. Hoʻohana wau i ka paepae ma ke ʻano he puke noke ākea e wehe i ka loiloi. ʻIke wau he ala kūpono ia e mālama ai i kaʻu mau hoa i ka loop me kaʻu hoʻomaʻamaʻa.
PS: Hoʻopili ʻia nā kiʻi (a me kā mākou mau pilina iā lākou) i loko o kahi ʻano paʻakikī o ka hoʻokūkū a me nā hopena e pili ana. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kūkākūkā pehea ke ʻano a me ka manifests o kāu hana?
RL: Hāʻawi kaʻu mau hana i nā ʻike i nā mea nānā i kaʻu nīnau e pili ana i nā hana paʻi kiʻi. ʻO koʻu hoihoi i nā photograms pili wale lākou iā lākou iho ma ke ʻano he papa, mea a me nā mea. ʻO kahi ala hou i kaʻu hana kiʻi paʻi kiʻi ke kaha kiʻi nei i nā kinona geometric me ka graphite ma luna o ka pepa kiʻi semi-matt i hōʻike ʻia a hana ʻia. A laila hoʻopili wau i kahi palaki pena mākū, hoʻololi i ka ʻili o ka graphite a me ka paʻi hou. Hōʻike ia i ka mālamalama ʻokoʻa, kaukaʻi ʻia i ke kihi o ka ʻike. E like me kaʻu mau hana ma mua i paʻi pololei ʻia i ka aluminika, ka mea a ka mea nānā e ʻike ai ma muli o kahi i hoʻonohonoho ʻia e pili ana i ka hana.
DT: Ma ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, hiki i kahi luna hoʻokele ke hoʻoholo i ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi pae maʻamau, kahi e hana ai ka hana ma hope o ka proscenium arch e hana nei ma ke ʻano he papa no ka hana keaka. I kēia kūlana he mākaʻikaʻi passive ka mea hoʻolohe. I ke paʻi kiʻi ʻana, ʻo ka mea like ka photobook a i ʻole ke kiʻi i kūkulu ʻia. Ma ke ʻano he hiʻohiʻona hōʻike, hiki i nā mea ʻelua ke hana maikaʻi, ʻo ka hapa nui no ka mea kūlike lākou i ko mākou manaʻo no ke ʻano o ke kiʻi. Eia naʻe, he aha inā koi ka hana iā mākou e hoʻoulu i ka poʻe e hoʻolohe nei, e noi nei he ʻano ʻokoʻa ko lākou kino? He aha inā e noʻonoʻo mākou i ke kiʻi paʻi kiʻi i kahi ākea ʻekolu? Manaʻo wau ua hoʻohuli kēia iaʻu i ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka pāpaho launa ʻole - pepa pepili, nā hae vinyl i hana ʻia, ʻo ke aniani aniani 3D, a pēlā aku - ma ke ʻano he nīnau ʻana i kā mākou mau manaʻo e pili ana i ke kiʻi paʻi kiʻi.
RW: Ke hana nei wau me ka manaʻo pehea e kūkulu ai i kiʻi. Hoʻolālā wau a kūkulu i nā kiʻi kālai, me ka manaʻo e paʻi kiʻi iā lākou, i like nā kiʻi me nā kumuhana a i nā ʻanuʻu o ke kahua. Makemake wau i ka pehea e hiki ai i kēia ke hana i nā kiʻi sureal a uncanny. ʻOiai ʻike wale ka mea nānā i kahi 'kiʻi', he aha ka mea e hana ʻia me ke kiʻi ʻana i nā mea hou aku. ʻO ka hana kino paha ia e pono ai i ka hana ʻana i kiʻi e uku ana; a i ʻole ke ʻike ʻana i kahi kiʻi i ʻoi aku ma mua o ka maka.
PS: ʻO nā kiʻi paʻi kahi ʻāpana o kā mākou mau kūkaʻi o kēlā me kēia lā, hana pinepine ʻia a maʻa mau i nā hāmeʻa e ʻaneʻane hapa o mākou. Pehea ʻoe e ʻike ai i kāu hana e hana nei i waena o kēia nui o ka hana demokalaka?
RL: Hoʻomaopopo nui ʻia ke kiʻi ʻana ma ke ʻano he meahana no ke kākau ʻana i ka honua waho. Eia nō naʻe, hoʻohana wau i ka moho pilikino reflexively e hōʻike i nā manaʻo abstract kūloko i hiki mai i ka hana ʻana i nā hoʻolālā - palupalu, kānalua a me nā resonance ʻano ʻē aʻe. Nānā kaʻu hana i ka haʻiʻōlelo mōʻaukala, e nānā ana i ka hopena o ke paʻi kiʻi ʻana i kā mākou wehewehe ʻana i nā kiʻi, a me nā mea i ʻike ʻia e mākou. Hoʻohana wau i ke kaʻina hana o ka hana ʻana i nā paʻi paʻi kiʻi e kāpae i ke kaʻina paʻi kiʻi i loko o kāna ʻāpana ʻāpana: ka mālamalama, ka manawa, ka ʻili māmā a me ka mea. Ke nīnau nei wau pehea mākou e ʻike ai i ka mea a mākou e ʻike ai, ke nānā mākou i nā kiʻi paʻi kiʻi.
DT: Ma ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka pseudonym, Darn Thorn, ka manaʻo o ka mea kākau i kaʻu hana e kāhea wale ʻia ai. He mea hoʻomākeʻaka, i hana ʻia ma kaʻu uku ponoʻī, e pili ana i ka manaʻo o ka 'mea pena kiʻi ma ke ʻano he loea'. Ua hana maʻalahi ʻenehana i ka hana ʻana o nā kiʻi hoʻonā kiʻekiʻe; ʻo ka mea i hiki wale ma mua me nā lako pono loea a me ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻoihana i kēia manawa, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa, hiki i nā mea he nui. I ko mākou manawa o kēia manawa, makemake ka pāpāho nūhou i nā kiʻi amateur i ke kiʻi paʻi kiʻi. I kēia pōʻaiapili, haʻohaʻo wau i ka ʻōlelo a kahi moʻo paʻi kiʻi maʻamau? ʻO nā puke paʻi kiʻi paʻi ponoʻī kahi mea democratizing; akā aia kahi kuhi no nā ʻāpana paʻi kiʻi a me nā paʻi paʻi e pili ana i kahi ʻano hoʻoponopono. Paipai pinepine lākou i kahi ʻano o nā paʻi paʻi kiʻi e kaʻana like i ka hoʻomau o ka moʻolelo a mākou e ʻike ai i ka photojournalism. Pane wau i kēia mau noʻonoʻo me ke pāʻani ʻana, e ka hana ʻana i nā hana e ola wale ai i hoʻokahi hoʻouka ʻana, a i ʻole pīhoihoi paha e kūʻai maʻalahi ʻia. Makemake au i ka poʻe hoʻolohe e nīnau i ka mea e hana nei. I kēia manaʻo, aia kekahi mea hana i kaʻu hana. Ma ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻi nunui o ke kuhikuhipuʻuone monumental a i ʻole nā hiʻona ʻāina, ke hāpai nei wau i kekahi mea lapuwale i ka mea nānā. Hāpai kēia mau hana i ke ʻano o ka hana keaka a me ke koʻikoʻi akā ʻano paʻakikī ia e hemo. Kāhea lākou i nā manaʻo o ka mea kiʻekiʻe, kāhea hapa ʻia me ka hao: Pehea e hiki ai i kahi mea nui a koʻikoʻi paha ke paʻakikī e heluhelu?
RW: Kuhi kaʻu hana ma nā mea i paʻi ʻia ma mua o ka pūnaewele, mai kahi manawa e pono ai nā kiʻi e lilo i mea e ola ai. Hoʻohana wau i ka nui o nā kiʻi i paʻi ʻia mai ka wā kahiko i ka wā e hoʻohana ai mākou e paʻi i kā mākou mau kiʻi e kaʻana like - a i ʻole ke kūʻai ʻana i nā makasina, nūpepa a me nā encyclopaedias kiʻi, e ʻike i nā wahi ʻē aʻe a me nā mea a puni ka honua. ʻO nā mea e hoihoi iaʻu i nā kiʻi i loaʻa ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana o nā mea estetika like ʻole, a me ka lure o kahi manawa ʻaʻole wau e noho ana - me kēia mau kiʻi e lilo ana i waihona o ka manaʻo. Me ka hiki ʻana mai o nā kelepona pahupaʻikiʻi, ke hana pū nei mākou i kēia manawa i nā kiʻi hou aʻe i kēlā me kēia lā ma mua o ka makahiki i hala. Palupalu loa kēia mau kiʻi paʻi kiʻi. Aia lākou ma nā hāmeʻa i kūkulu ʻole ʻia i ʻoi aku ma mua o ʻelima mau makahiki. Mahalo wau pehea mākou e ʻike ai i nā kiʻi i loko o iwakālua a kanalima mau makahiki paha?
Aia ʻo Roseanne Lynch ma Leipzig e hana nei i kahi hana no kahi hōʻike hui ma Ballarat International Foto Biennale, Australia, a me kahi hōʻike solo ma Center Culturel Irlandais, Paris.
Hana ʻo Darn Thorn me ke kiʻi paʻi a me ke kau ʻana. ʻO nā hōʻike hou e pili ana me EVA International 2018 a me '2116' ma ka Glucksman Gallery (Cork) a me Broad Art Museum (USA). Ua aʻo ʻo ia ma CIT Crawford College of Art and Design.
ʻO Róisín White kahi mea pena kiʻi ʻike ʻia ma Dublin. Hana ʻo ia i nā pāpaho nānā a me nā mea i loaʻa, me nā hōʻike hou loa ma ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike o Contemporary Photography o ʻIlani, a me ka Finnish Museum of Photography.
ʻO Pádraig Spillane kahi mea pena kiʻi, kahu a mea aʻo, aʻo ma CIT Crawford College of Art and Design. Hana ʻo ia me ke kiʻi paʻi, hoʻokaʻawale a me nā hui i hoʻokumu ʻia me nā mea, me ka hana i hōʻike ʻia i kahi hōʻike hui e hiki mai ana ma The Complex, Dublin.
Kiʻi i hōʻike ʻia: ʻO Darn Thorn, ʻO Aggiornamento, 2018, mai ka 16mm kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻeleʻele & keʻokeʻo; ʻoluʻolu a ka mea pena kiʻi.
